Well I still haven't bought a new laptop. I did learn some stuff about the video card in the video card I have now though. Today's laptops integrated video. Score 58% better. Mine is classed as a low rate low budget card even when new. Funny today I can buy a cheaper laptop and get better graphics by a long way. 18months is a long time in the technology world.
My budget has nearly doubled since I made the thread originally. But I am wondering do I wait until June or whenever ivy bridge chip comes out. See what the price of them are. If good get a ivy bridge. If not get a sandy bridge chip ones when they will no doubt go on sale. I don't like waiting
They do say every 18 months computer power doubles
I would probably wait for the Ivy bridge, you've already waited at least two months since you last talked about it. I hear ya though, I don't like waiting either, so that could be tough. Will it be that much of a difference anyway?
So it kinda makes me wonder why is the video card and that is so poor? Low grade Reading the stats on it now seems I should have gone with not buying the video card that the current integrated video would have been just as good. I guess I was just moody after the one before it blew up for no reason.
The ones I am looking at now have to met all these requirements
8 or 9 cell battery (would like too have the option of having 2 batteries like my old hp that blew up.) May just buy 2x 8 or 9 cells and swap over if required. 1920x1080 preferably matte display 5ghz wireless card. Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6200 or higher video card. gtx 460 or 555 or higher also that changes from integrated to the dedicated card when playing games etc. preferably 2 hard drives. (Maybe get a ssd drive for fun. provided they don't drain the battery something bad.) blu ray player (even though I still am yet to own a blu ray disc.)
Maybe a backlit keyboard. I hopefully wont rip the keys off like I did with my current one. I broke off the windows start and caps lock keys because I would always hit them. Since breaking them off I haven't hit them lol Also a touch pad that didn't randomly click and that by itself would be nice.
That's a really nice laptop. Seems like a beast and the price ain't bad. The only thing it's missing for you is the Blu-Ray player, but like you said you don't own any Blu-Ray's so that might not be a big deal.
Visiting his store he has one listed as. P150EM $2,047.00 Future Intel Processor 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz System Memory 750GB 7200RPM, DVD+/-RW Super Multi DVD Burner 15.6-inch FHD LED Gamut Premium Matte Display 1920x1080) nVidia Geforce GTX670M 1.5GB GDDR5 Dedicated Graphics DX11 Intel Wireless-N Advanced 6230 + Bluetooth , 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN, Windows 7 pro Onkyo Speakers, nVidia Optimus Technology v1.2 8 Cell Battery
Which is $500 more then the dell I made up. So I wonder if the cpu and the minor GPU upgrade is really worth $500? GTX670M is pretty much a re-branded 570M going on some forum I found.
Its doubtful I need super high specs. If this laptop is to go by seems basic junk is all I really need. I don't really plan on playing any super fancy graphics game in general let alone on a laptop.
Well I did do some more looking seems the dells AG screen is well meh. After I read it I thought hang on wasn't that one of the reasons why I avoided the dell 18 months ago. Seems they never got around to fixing it.
So the next highest 1080 non AG screen is a extra $300 (as its 3d). So that put it out of my price range. So I miss the 30% off sale as that ends tomorrow. So looks like I'm stuck waiting until another sale happens. yay...
Last Edit: Mar 7, 2012 8:17:08 GMT -5 by penguincat
Well maybe, maybe not. There are like some stuff that could happen. So waiting may not be a good thing.
From what I was reading you can get a extra up to 15% off dell stuff if you call up apparently. I can't see why as it as would be cheaper to do it online then to pay call staff peoples and that. Seems they have a high rate of screw ups though.
Looks like I missed the boat. The laptop I wanted is no longer on sale plus the free 3d upgrade thing ended so now that's a extra $300. I wasn't finished doing stuff and the above laptop ended up at $2600.... I could buy half a alienware one for that.
So now MSI GT780 $1947 only one left.
Intel Core i7-2630QM 2.0-2.9Ghz Turbo 16GB DDR3 (1333Mhz) system memory 1000GB (2x500GB) 7200RPM HDD RAID, Super Multi 8X DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support 17.3-inch LED FHD (1920x1080) MATTE DISPLAY nVidia Geforce GTX560 with 1.5GB Dedicated Video Memory Intel Wireless-N Advanced 6230, 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN Windows® 7 Professional 64bit 9 Cell Battery
Or $2,246 with a SSD drive and 1 500GB hard drive.
I have to ask to see if it is the backlit keyboard model. If it is you can program what colors you would like and when they change and that. sounds pretty.
Though another store has pretty much the above except for it has a 3GB GTX570M, bluray burner SSD and 750gig hard drive for $2350. Only thing is hasn't got a decent wireless card in it. But it has the backlit keyboard.
Stuff I found The fan is quite noisy. So is this one too I guess as its on my bed and gets no air and stuff at times lol. Also that it doesn't appear to have Optimus so extra drain on the battery. Does score pretty well though.
Last Edit: Mar 9, 2012 0:27:35 GMT -5 by penguincat
I guess continue doing research and you'll know when you find the one you want. It's definitely tough to choose the right one because you never know if there will be something wrong with it, and since you're gonna be spending a lot on it you want the perfect laptop for you. The ones you have been showing are beasts and seem really nice.
Kinda thing is I don't really think I'll be using it that much unless this one likes blows up. Even then I id try to get this one fixed under warranty. Not sure if ripping off keys voids it lol.
The plan I wanted to do was use this one and use the new one when I'm out a and until this one blows up. Then change over. Basically 400$ for 2 new 6 cell batteries (I think the quote was). Or spend a bit more and get a new one. (the original goal price was under $1300 unless it had duel batteries.)
The major problem I discovered with buying a new one was I was like how can take it to my grandmas's etc? How do I explain that my laptop is like "portable" again. My dad knows it isn't portable as he used it to install a motorbike part + me constantly yelling at it for being useless for not being portable. Also possibly a different color size etc? Only thing I could come up with was that I had won it. Like that would happen.
Each time I buy a new laptop I get told off. Why do you need a new laptop you only need one computer etc. After I explain why he doesn't care. Currently its well pay 400$ for new batteries or buy a new one.. But other then that it works its just very annoying. He has tech friends at work who fix laptops and that for cheap so if I lie and say x isn't working he will want to take it. (though he was going to take the last one but never did.) Even though it turned to be fault with the series that let to catastrophic hardware failure.
I'm 25 and its like I can't buy stuff. It isn't like I'm using credit cards or his money to pay for it. Until last month he owed me money. He has blown a few thousand on bike parts because the old ones weren't shiny enough...
Post by penguincat on Mar 11, 2012 16:17:15 GMT -5
So I'm thinking about just getting one of these now.
$1750 New msi gt780 17.3" 1920x1080 LED Full HD Intel Core i7-2670M (2.2Ghz) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 16GB DDR3 750GB HDD Nvidia GTX560M 1.5GB GDDR5 Gigabit LAN, Bluetooth, 802.11 b/g/n Super Multi Writer, 9 cell battery Backlit keyboard
$1350 refurbished ASUS G73SW-TZ200V Intel Core Processor i7-2630QM (2Ghz/Turbo 2.9G, 6Mb cache) 8GB DDR3 SDRAM (1333MHz) 1 TB (500 GB x 2) Solid State Hybrid (SSH) Blu-ray +-R/RW with SuperMulti DVD+-R/RW 17.3" (1920x1080 Resolution) HD LED NVIDIA GTX 460M, with 1.5GB GDDR5 VRAM Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 802.11b/g/n Bluetooth, Integrated Gigabit Ethernet Controller (10/100/1000) 8-Cell Lithium Ion
I gave up on: 5ghz wireless if required I'll get a duel band usb thing. It did seem nice but 2.4 is fine for my use. If I get a decent 2.4ghz card I should be peachy. Getting A SSD (I think I'll get one for my desktop first.) Still not a fan of the read and write limit as well. A second hard drive. I was thinking that maybe id just reconnect my usb drive and remotely ftp that when I'm out of required instead of getting another hard drive. Cost more to do but yeah. Though in 18 months my current laptop hard drive I have 82.3gig out of 450gig used. Massive downloader aren't I lol.
So do I risk waiting to see if the msi gt780 goes on sale when ivy bridge comes out. I can't get the asus one now as its out of stock again but there was a mass auction site that had for the same price just 1 year warranty instead of 2 or 3 years.
Why are laptop batteries so hard to find. Is it buy a battery get a free laptop or something? Surely they make more.
Edit: I was having a look at the MSI one. Seems its already 300$ cheaper then a cheap store that I have bought my desktops from (they have it with a slower processor less ram and but with windows 7 pro for $2099.00) everything else is the same. So it going on sale so its very unlikely to go on sale further if it is wont be by much I don't believe. I guess they are clearing out stock to make way for ivy bridge already.
Edit edit: Well looking at another store I found the MSI for $1599 with a blu ray burner 8gig ram same everything else. Problem is one in stock and they don't deliver. So now I'm thinking maybe the MSI for 1799$ is just a low stock item. So it could be the last one/s so waiting could be good or bad.
Last Edit: Mar 11, 2012 19:41:47 GMT -5 by penguincat
Post by penguincat on Mar 12, 2012 19:27:19 GMT -5
I did try emailing the store about the MSI $1750 one to see how many they had in stock /if they where able to get/getting more. But I have no idea if my message went though. As I have no idea how long it takes for them to reply. I did ask for a discount too as sometimes they give you one. The person who gave me the idea said something about a 5-10% discount. If I am able to get that then that's the laptop I will be getting.
If they send me a 10% off code or whatever then I might get its brother its $2099 (same as I posted above but 570gtx card and blu ray burner.) I don't need either but if it brings it down to the price of the other one then why not get it.
Edit: Well that reply was boring. Thanks for your enquiry. Sadly we are not provided with information this specific, so I am unsure which brand card is used internally. We only have a couple in stock but should be able to source more if need be. The prices you see listed are the best prices we can do, which does not leave room for further discount.
Let us know if you have any further queries and we’ll be glad to help.
Couldn't tell me what wireless card the laptops had. I think it's meant to be on the box. But yeah the download page says there are a few wireless cards. But the odd thing is unless they put in a pre 2008 card in it then they are all 5ghz compatible. So that makes things interesting.
Last Edit: Mar 13, 2012 6:48:19 GMT -5 by penguincat